// Recently there has been a lot of notes regarding the penalty // for dying on the ooc board. Today there was a discussion // in the ooc area regarding it... // There was a request for a log of it, and since I log everything // I decided to add it here so all could read about it. The OOC-Area. Here you can discuss about the game and other topics which belong to the 'real world'. To the east you can change the learning preferences of your character and to the west you notice a room where you can talk without being disturbed by invisible spies. To the south you can check guildinformation and to the north you can volunteer for newbie-helper. There are five obvious exits: game, north, east, south, west. A bulletin board containing eighty notes. Jegga, Omen and a gruesome masked human. Jegga says in Common: took me 45 mins to write The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: gimme a minute ;) The gruesome masked human sits down to rest a while. The gruesome masked human looks at the bulletin board. say 'lo You say in Common: 'lo Jegga says in Common: opinions wanted! >The gruesome masked human reads a note titled 'Vitality and PVP'. Jegga says in Common: yo You say in Common: I still think that the death penalty as it is is fine > You say in Common: if you cannot live with that.. join a guild that isn't as much PvP oriented > Jegga says in Common: if potentially freezes down any normal balanced, fair and FUN fight say or stay out of such situations You say in Common: or stay out of such situations You chuckle. You ask in Common: So what? > Jegga says in Common: im thinking on the 15 pklayers warring now You say in Common: reduce the old penalty to where it was.. and you'll have a single char that dies 20 times from the same mob again You say in Common: simply because it takes him hours to get back to full strength You say in Common: which is crap You say in Common: on the other hand.. you could set up donation boxes... You say in Common: each death costs you 25 gold coins > Jegga says in Common: and what about big pvpers not wanting to fight each other, because they know they _will_ die? Jegga says in Common: i know players who make 100 golds in 1 hour You grin amusedly. > Jegga says in Common: when big guys clash, newbies die You say in Common: well.. then take a hundred gems You say in Common: there has to be a price > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: this is simply stupid You say in Common: and the price has to be high > Jegga says in Common: its always the same ones paying the price You say in Common: so ppl try to avoid dying > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: you mean they just changed death penalty because we tried to kill the octopus that way? The gruesome masked human laughs. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I always hear the same "someone did something with a npc" Omen mentions in Common: Oh, Im back... uh.. lemme ead over the conversation and I'll join in!! You say in Common: i think it was more the incident at the multicolored orb You say in Common: or bere dying 20 times at the satho guild > Jegga says in Common: there are several of them, and good reasons to change something The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: Beren would have gone 20 times to satho guild even with his stats at 0 Jegga says in Common: but now we are living different tims You smirk. >Jegga says in Common: face it: most of the players are fighting each other You say in Common: so what? > You say in Common: noone forces you to kill each other > Jegga says in Common: that the way things are: ONLY newbies die The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: wrong Oran Jegga says in Common: because the big guys wont die or fight The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: we're forced Jegga says in Common: the cursaders are FORCED TO KILL The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: by RP The gruesome masked human nods. <OOC>: Jegga: i use mays coz __ is hard to type :) You say in Common: well.. that were your choices as players > The gruesome masked human shakes his head in disagreement. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: wrong again Omen goes to read the big long note. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: that's the spirit of the guild Omen looks at the bulletin board. You say in Common: live with the consequences.. or join a guild where you won't die as easily > Omen reads a note titled 'Vitality and PVP'. Jegga says in Common: oran, omen Jegga says in Common: MOST of the players are warring Omen mentions in Common: Woah... that's a frickin big note. Omen mentions in Common: The fun lovin hippies arent warring! Omen giggles. Omen points at herself. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: yeah, thieves aren't warring Jegga says in Common: nither they die that much You say in Common: i'm only with uncut gems at war >Omen is small and harmless. You laugh. > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but empathy is good The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: so use it ;) You say in Common: well.. who told you that we must start wars by killing ppl > The gruesome masked human chuckles. Jegga says in Common: those times are over You say in Common: and well.. we got no cool magic special like the new guilds > Jegga says in Common: order, crusaders, take a look around The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I'll go icly The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and call some crussies You say in Common: well.. not my problem if you join them > The gruesome masked human waves briefly. The gruesome masked human stands up. The gruesome masked human walks out game. > Jegga says in Common: you cant justify something thats hurting a lot of people by telling them not to play You say in Common: but if you do.. you're well aware of the consequences... > Jegga says in Common: theres a big problem Jegga says in Common: newbie death You tell Jegga in Common: Well.. technically the players of legios have destroyed the legion. > Jegga says in Common: its mainly due to unbalanced big characers in both sides You tell Jegga in Common: Due to their absence.. the guild got destroyed. > Jegga says in Common: and unless you balance it somehow Jegga says in Common: newbies die Jegga says in Common: all the time You say in Common: well.. you cannot rebalance it by changing something completly different > Jegga says in Common: over and over The gruesome masked human walks in. Jegga says in Common: i think reducing biggies fear for death in pvp Jegga says in Common: will make them less reluctant to actually fight, and die _for_ newbies You say in Common: well.. newbies shouldn't be killed.. unless they get them involved > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: like the idea of the pvp flag Tarlon stomps in. You say in Common: thought that was always the case.. with all guilds > Tarlon stomps out game. Jegga says in Common: they HAVE to get involved Jegga says in Common: they WANT to get involved Jegga says in Common: they WANT to play You tell Jegga in Common: Well.. then it'S your mistake if you have a newbie char. > Jegga rolls his eyes in exasperation. Jegga says in Common: then you better clsoe the doors of geas You say in Common: you shouldn't have joined,... .unless you were strong enough to be one of the big guys > Jegga says in Common: and only let the same people play all the time, with different chars The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: which was most likely what happened in the past Jegga says in Common: i dont hacve a concern with me dying, thats my point Jegga says in Common: i think about lostwind, jolas, exodus Jegga says in Common: and the more to come You say in Common: i just have a single char > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and now with the crusader thing it's nice to have them here :D You tell Jegga in Common: Well.. it's their problem then. > Tarlon stomps in. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: that's indeed an easy way to think Oran The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: "it's their problem" The gruesome masked human dances. Jegga says in Common: its more peple's problem if they can't find a way to solve it Omen scratches her head. Jegga says in Common: leaders of the guild want new members Jegga says in Common: they want them to play and have fun Jegga says in Common: they want to protect them Omen fails to grasp what the argument is actually about... Omen pats herself on her head. Jegga says in Common: but they wont die for them The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: it's our problem as I see it... as it involves many players... specially youngsters, which is what we most need right now You poke the gruesome masked human in the ribs. > The gruesome masked human greets Tarlon. Oops up! > You poke Omen in the ribs. >Jegga says in Common: or will attack smaller guys Omen giggles. Omen licks you. Drakkarr graciously enters. You say in Common: well.. you're not the only guilds that are in need of members >The gruesome masked human smiles at Drakkarr. The gruesome masked human greets Drakkarr. Drakkarr raises his hand and greets you! Omen nods seriously to you. Omen smiles at Drakkarr You say in Common: so the problems are shared with the others >Jegga looks at Drakkarr. Jegga says in Common: hi The gruesome masked human tells you in Common: But we are the ones which might lose them because pvp. Jegga says in Common: cmon, look around Drakkarr asks in Common: What's going on? You say in Common: but the death penalty is totally unrelated from the fact that it's damn easy for newbies to die > Jegga says in Common: crusaders are hype Jegga says in Common: this war is hype Jegga says in Common: lots of people hunt each other, and have fun The gruesome masked human tells Drakkarr in Common: Talking a bit about the current situation at geas. Jegga says in Common: but nothing really happens, its just hinvisible rabbit hunts Jegga says in Common: because the hunted part WONT fight Jegga says in Common: because noone wants to die Jegga says in Common: and when they do fight You smirk. >Jegga says in Common: its newbies who die The gruesome masked human tells Drakkarr in Common: Specially regarding death system with the crusaders around and the constants wars well have. You say in Common: prevent them from running away? > Omen mentions in Common: He means they wont fight... by not logging on... Jegga says in Common: that doesnt fix the 9 on 3 problem oran Omen mentions in Common: I think... Jegga says in Common: from either side Omen scratches her head. The gruesome masked human looks at the leather backpack. Jegga says in Common: but those 3 WOULD fight if it wouldnt hurt THAT MUCH You say in Common: well. the 9 vs 3 problem.. ok.. that's something that is hard to fix that way.... > Jegga says in Common: and then _12_ twelve! players have fun Jegga says in Common: i dont care if i lose a fight Drakkarr goes hmmmm. Jegga says in Common: coz i know it was fun The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: in the past, it was common to see players staying in a fight until dd Jegga says in Common: and the other guy feels better too The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: or close Jegga says in Common: i DO care if it sets me back 3 weeks in gameplay The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: now, players leave immediately The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: if they aren't sure of winning... that sucks :( Drakkarr asks in Common: So what are the suggestions to fix the problem? The gruesome masked human looks at the bulletin board. Jegga says in Common: reduced death penalty from Pvp The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I like the pvp flag suggested by jegga Jegga says in Common: change it so it disables the guy from fighting for the day Tarlon grumbles in Common: people left fast in fights before as well Drakkarr reads a note titled 'Vitality and PVP'. Jegga says in Common: so he says, "ok, i lost this one" and doesnt come back The gruesome masked human tells Tarlon in Common: Not SO fast ;). Jegga says in Common: it also helps with _resolving_ fights and _wars_ btw The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and we already have the "fear factor" Jegga says in Common: else, things superscalate forever Tarlon grumbles in Common: dragan dalamar kurt didnt fight long they made slay one or two hits and run The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: maybe increase the "fear time" Tarlon grumbles in Common: always Drakkarr says in Common: superscalate...new word? Jegga says in Common: i frigging feel RL fear when i type who Tarlon grumbles in Common: shadovca and ferranifer as well The gruesome masked human tells Tarlon in Common: You're talking more than a year ago tarlon. Tarlon nods wildly. Jegga says in Common: prolly ;9 The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: again, more than a year Tarlon grumbles in Common: i didnt play last year so probably The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: you need an upgrade Tarlon ;) You say in Common: hehe >Omen pats Tarlon on the head. Tarlon grins slightly. Tarlon grumbles in Common: perhaps The gruesome masked human actualizes Tarlon to Tarlon v1.2. Omen giggles. You laugh. >The gruesome masked human nods. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: fixed Tarlon grumbles in Common: ahrg Jegga says in Common: dragan, dalamar, etc, sathos, cant stand a fight for long Jegga says in Common: thats why order exists Jegga says in Common: same with crusaders Jegga says in Common: _WAR_ The gruesome masked human shouts in Common: WAR! You smirk. The gruesome masked human dangerously hops around. Jegga says in Common: not endless skrmishes The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: where where! Tarlon grumbles in Common: they could stand a fight for long but it was their taktic Omen looks at the gruesome masked human. The gruesome masked human coughs. Omen tries to tickle the gruesome masked human. The gruesome masked human calms down. Jegga says in Common: they were toasted without it Tarlon grumbles in Common: okay dalamar couldnt stand for long Jegga says in Common: none of them, and we astray ;) The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: don't worry, slay can't be used as it was in the past You say in Common: well.. someone should code a battlefield .. just for the crusaders, templars, sathos .. and whoever wants in.. all can get in.. one guild can leave.. alive :) > You say in Common: or rather one side You say in Common: just lock it down >Omen smiles amusedly. The gruesome masked human comforts Tarlon. Jegga says in Common: you mean we leave the game undisturbed so the minority can enjoy it and fuck the rest? You tell Jegga in Common: It was more a joke than anything :). > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: yeah but actually, this is not a funny topic Jegga smiles. Drakkarr says in Common: i think just lightening up the death penaly a bit would help a lot You say in Common: it won't help if some ppl would leave the game :) > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and maybe we're not noticing... > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but at this rate, a lot of players could stop playing geas soon Tarlon grumbles in Common: kay try to get used to the 1.2 update need to visit the doener shop You say in Common: hehe >The gruesome masked human smiles at Tarlon. Jegga says in Common: i bet all that joined due to this new hype The gruesome masked human nods to Jegga. Jegga says in Common: even if 80% are seconds ; The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: exodus, lostwind & co. You chuckle. > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: they were all gone, until this Jegga says in Common: at least they are seconds playing _again_ The gruesome masked human smirks. Drakkarr asks in Common: And who's fault is it anyways that the death penalyty was hightened? Omen shrugs. Tarlon grumbles in Common: yeah lostwind and exodus are very old The gruesome masked human shrugs. You tell Jegga in Common: Which means that their other seconds are not being played. >Jegga says in Common: stagnancy Omen mentions in Common: Only died like 9 times... not mine... Omen smiles slightly. Jegga says in Common: lack of dynamic Pvp and fear from dying _from other players_ The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I just know that "who list" is right now average on 15 players say it used to be more.. i know You say in Common: it used to be more.. i know > Jegga tells you in Common: They werent anyways. Jegga tells you in Common: And if they actually have more fun with these ones... blame them. The gruesome masked human looks at the skull mask. Lostwind graciously enters. You tell Jegga in Common: Nah.. i am just sad that i don't have a legio second.. > Jegga says in Common: devil coming in ;) Jegga says in Common: hey The gruesome masked human smiles at Lostwind. Lostwind says in Common: Hiya The gruesome masked human hides. Drakkarr asks you in Common: legio second? Omen smiles at Lostwind Lostwind says in Common: Thanks for the invite... what's up? You tell Drakkarr in Common: Yeah.. would have some plans with him. > Jegga says in Common: hungry? You tell Drakkarr in Common: And no.. they're no crusader plans. >Jegga says in Common: HUGE note to eat The gruesome masked human tells Lostwind in Common: We were discussing a bit about the situation at MUD, and death system. The gruesome masked human looks at the bulletin board. The gruesome masked human points at the 80 note. Lostwind nods understandingly. Lostwind looks at the bulletin board. Lostwind reads a note titled 'Vitality and PVP'. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: for example, even if Jezz dies The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: he has plenty of zones to train and recover The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but if Lostwind dies The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: she either trains a "weak npc" zones The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: or team with bigger crusaders The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: option "a" means jezz will have an easy time locating her The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: option "b" means he can be killed again in a team fight The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: she The gruesome masked human blushes. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and with the current death penalty, that would make a newbie like... a rabbit The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and for too long Jegga says in Common: with death penalty that makes a newbie... a newbie, forver The gruesome masked human nods. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I still don't even know what are my stats right now You smirk. > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: prolly I'll never know, as things are right now Jegga says in Common: coz you either stay killing gremlins all day long, or team with the big guys and die again as soon as a fight shows up Jegga says in Common: AND you miss the fun when fighting your enemies You smirk. > Jegga says in Common: so you belong to a guild, which is cool, but you cant do a thing Lostwind says in Common: I don't really see newbies staying newbies forever, though Jegga says in Common: coz youll be the first to die and set back again 2 weeks in time Jegga says in Common: 2 weeks killing gremlins again You ask in Common: Two weeks? > The gruesome masked human tells Lostwind in Common: Not as things were in the past. Jegga says in Common: 2 weeks away from teaming with your guildMATES The gruesome masked human tells Lostwind in Common: But with crusader+taniel vs order+sathos... Jegga says in Common: and having FUN You say in Common: last time oran died and had to recover normally it took me 4 days > Omen nods slightly to you. You say in Common: last death .. was without penalty... death was caused due to some weird problem > Lostwind says in Common: Why would I avoid teaming with my guildmates? I simply go back. My guildmates can also help me fighting in areas, not only in PVP The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: you have to tell me where do you train ;) You say in Common: easy.. last room before the dragon > Lostwind says in Common: well, the portal, most recently Lostwind grins. Jegga says in Common: lostwind, then in a fight you'll die again, naturally The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: sure Omen mentions in Common: Orans Personal Plyground (tm) Jegga says in Common: as soon as you step forward, you die Lostwind says in Common: But that's cause I train with guildmates The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: Lostwind, trust me The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: if you meet two sathos Lostwind says in Common: If it's so serious - then I don't step forward The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and for any reason they turn to you The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and cast bspear The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: you're dead Lostwind says in Common: That's likely true whether I've died recently or not ;) Lostwind says in Common: I'm a lot smaller than most of you guys The gruesome masked human smirks. Jegga says in Common: if I ever step forward in front of seneca or korsario, im meat You smirk. > Jegga says in Common: which means, I dont step forward in any fight involving them... guess what? all the fights involve them Jegga says in Common: guess what? same happens with jezz The gruesome masked human goes eeks! The gruesome masked human hides. Omen mentions in Common: But that would be the same for most people... The gruesome masked human asks in Common: What happens with me? Omen mentions in Common: Not many could stand a full frontal attack from Korsy... Drakkarr chuckles. Jegga says in Common: theres no way to only involve buddies of the same size Jegga says in Common: its war Lostwind says in Common: That's untrue, Jegga - as Jezz could attest today The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: ah The gruesome masked human asks in Common: I could what? Omen mentions in Common: Learn to use a bow til you're stronger. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: ey ey Omen grins slightly. Lostwind says in Common: But I just don't see why there should be The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: stop saying my name if I don't understand what you're talking about Lostwind says in Common: Being in a guild at war is dangerous - that's a fact You say in Common: hehe > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but Lostwind Lostwind says in Common: And we die, and have to recover. I die probably more often than all of you ;) The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: Crusaders will be ALWAYS in war You say in Common: being in a guild that is by definition always at war.. is even more dangerous :) > Drakkarr coughs. Drakkarr looks at Lostwind. Lostwind says in Common: That's why I joined them. If fighting isn't your thing, you should pick a different guild Jegga says in Common: what I try to say is that its too dangerous, its in fact as dangerous that its less fun, and it goes against the whole idea The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I love fighting The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: love ambushing and all that stuff Lostwind says in Common: But I disagree. To me, if it weren't dangerous, it would be boring Lostwind nods to the gruesome masked human. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but with current penaly, if I die once. I won't be able to do anything serious for weeks Lostwind says in Common: I've always loved the thrill of fear at running into a big enemy The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: maybe that's coz clerics depend more on stats than maybe warriors Lostwind says in Common: Well, if you're only willing to fight when you're at full strength, that might be true. But I am willing to fight even when at a disadvantage The gruesome masked human ponders the situation. Lostwind says in Common: Clerics can also stay in back row more easily than fighters ;) The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I would accept that argument... The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: if there would be more evils The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: sure, now you look at "who list" and average are 3 crusaders there Lostwind says in Common: Then recruit. The not enough goods arguement was used for a long time by the other side Jegga says in Common: oh no, we get into the balance argument now, been trying to avoid it The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but I look at "who list" and see there Jegga with luck Lostwind nods seriously. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I never heard that "not enough goods" Lostwind says in Common: Raptor plays, Cemoch plays The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: Cemoch? The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: since the destruction of legion, I've seen cemoch once The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: raptor twice Lostwind says in Common: Oh, come, when the Order was first introduced half the good guys stopped fighting because they were too strong to bother fighting Jegga says in Common: the only thing ill say about evil vs good balance is: Its much harder to recruit evil players. The gruesome masked human nods wholeheartedly to Jegga Omen nods to Lostwind. Lostwind says in Common: Well, I've been a Crusader member for, what, three days? And I've already fought him Lostwind says in Common: The mud could use a whole lot more players in general Omen mentions in Common: It's easier to recruit players on whatever side is winning... The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: then maybe I'm mistaken, and it has been just bad luck that all the time I've logged in there were always just crusaders ;) Drakkarr agrees with Omen. Lostwind nods to Omen. Jegga says in Common: who says they win? The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I don't think so Omen Jegga grins. Lostwind says in Common: You know people go through cycles when they stop playing. And with so few players, one person taking a break makes a big difference Omen mentions in Common: We could use a whole lot more players... so it might be a small step but we should all vote on that site that's on the website. Lostwind nods seriously to Omen Lostwind says in Common: And writing reviews is a big help The gruesome masked human nods seriously to Omen too. You tell Omen in Common: I cannot do more than vote... > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I vote from home and university :P You say in Common: but i am not the one who'd be writing reviews > Omen mentions in Common: It's way easier to recruit players to whatever side is winning. And people who have more than one char play whatever char is on the winning side at any one time. Jegga says in Common: false Jegga says in Common: i always play evil chars Omen mentions in Common: True Lostwind says in Common: I've been meaning to write one after the new guild Jegga says in Common: always The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I want a char at crusaders to do so :P Jegga says in Common: and the true evil chars Omen mentions in Common: Well I know of a good few people who have more than one char, and that's what Ive seen. Jegga says in Common: always play evil chars Lostwind says in Common: I'd say people with more than one char tend to play whatever is most exciting at the time Jegga says in Common: yes, true, but always evil Jegga says in Common: its here, in the heart ;) Lostwind grins. Lostwind pats Jegga on the head. The gruesome masked human smiles. You say in Common: unfortunately all my chars tend to move to the neutral side.. whereever they might have been planned :) > Omen tells Lostwind in Common: That's what I mean, exactly what you said. Lostwind says in Common: Yes, but talking about trends on the mud and not you specifically - whatever's most exciting is what draws people Omen mentions in Common: I've always been neutral!! The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but I still think that for a newbie, joining the evil side is harder than good Lostwind says in Common: I've always been Lostwind, so what can I say Lostwind grins ironically. Jegga says in Common: ok, i think the crusaders and order thing is a good change, because it actually removes the blurry field in the middle Jegga says in Common: now you are either good, evil or true neutral The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: a newbie will always see that "if I join those creepy guys, I won't be able to chat at inn's crossing for hours with whoever appears" Jegga says in Common: no more double faces (mostly) Lostwind says in Common: I think it's great, because too many people were sitting on the fence Drakkarr says in Common: yep..no more neutrality..i kinda like that Lostwind says in Common: If you were in the middle, you could get all the advantages of both sides You tell Jegga in Common: No... now you're either good, evil or in between... > Lostwind nods happily. Jegga says in Common: true, so its a big change Lostwind says in Common: Now if you're a fence sitter, you still won't get the advantage of the help of the Crusaders, at least The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I want to be neutral :( but reputation is always at minimum Jegga says in Common: i think its a HUGE improvement You say in Common: if you're in between.. the good ones or the evil ones might decide that those in between are an obstacle that has to be removed first :) > Jegga says in Common: the thing is: it naturally leads to pvp Omen mentions in Common: Yea... knowing my luck I'll be removed first. Shinji graciously enters. Jegga says in Common: because now two, very definite, sides clash Omen tries to tickle Shinji The gruesome masked human grins at Shinji. Omen hugs Shinji. Drakkarr says in Common: hey Lostwind says in Common: I'm also working with my wiz on a newbie area, which I hope will help newbies who give us a try to stick around Shinji looks at the bulletin board. Shinji slaps Omen. Shinji grins. Drakkarr says in Common: good idea omen Omen grins amusedly. The gruesome masked human tells Shinji in Common: Attack! Drakkarr goes hmmmm. The gruesome masked human smiles broadly. You tell Lostwind in Common: Good idea :). >Drakkarr wields a morning-star in his right hand. Drakkarr wields an axe in his left hand. Drakkarr peers intently at Shinji Shinji goes rar! Drakkarr unwields a morning-star. Drakkarr unwields an axe. Omen sniffles. Jegga looks at Drakkarr. Omen tells Shinji in Common: There was no need for that!! Jegga smiles. Lostwind says in Common: It's just a bit slow going. Especially since I keep getting distracted by actually wanting to play for the first time in years ;) Shinji murmurs in Common: the crusade guards at the tower are really mean :( You say in Common: what real newbies are needing are a warning about not killing ppl inside towns .. since the guards might dislike that :) > Omen tells Shinji in Common: Unless Shinji's po is scared of women too! Jegga says in Common: lets keep the chat clear... Lostwind nods seriously. The gruesome masked human asks Shinji in Common: you went there? Shinji looks at the gruesome masked human. Shinji nods to the gruesome masked human. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: Sathonys, gimme patience Shinji murmurs in Common: died pretty quick The gruesome masked human rolls his eyes in exasperation. Shinji laughs. Lostwind says in Common: My newbie area will include that. It reminds me, I keep meaning to post a note asking for people's opinions Shinji looks at Lostwind. The gruesome masked human looks at Shinji. Jegga says in Common: well, can we guys reach a middleware solution about illing newbeis? Shinji shouts in Common: too many crusaders!! Shinji frowns. The gruesome masked human asks Shinji in Common: were they two-handed wielding? Shinji shakes his head in disagreement to the gruesome masked human. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: woa Jegga tells the gruesome masked human in Common: Guys, later ;). Shinji murmurs in Common: dual axes, did a little whirlwind You say in Common: hehe > Shinji murmurs in Common: cut the tendon in my leg...couldnt leave Shinji grins. Shinji looks at the bulletin board. The gruesome masked human rolls his eyes in exasperation. Shinji reads a note titled 'reputation vs alignment'. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: whatever, I hope someone likes the idea about death system Lostwind says in Common: I believe a gentleman's agreement not to kill newbies when possible is the best solution The gruesome masked human nods. The gruesome masked human sits down to rest a while. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: you can ask around, and I already did that with Exodus You nod to Lostwind. > Jegga says in Common: but then we have to say somethingf about mixed teaming Shinji reads a note titled '>reputation vs alignment'. Omen is going to vote. Lostwind says in Common: I don't like the idea of a PVP flag. Too confusing, too open to misuse The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but I decided to stop stunning when I read crusaders killed and looted a newbie satho Lostwind says in Common: Well, we can't blame you for that - we did go looking for you, after all Jegga says in Common: i've felt bad when I've killed a newbie in the past The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I don't regret killing you four... but it's not something I specially enjoyed either Jegga says in Common: really bad Lostwind says in Common: Us four? The gruesome masked human coughs. Drakkarr rolls his eyes in exasperation. Shinji reads a note titled '>>reputation vs alignment'. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: jolas and drakkarr too The gruesome masked human sighs. Jegga says in Common: been doing some cleaning... >Jegga rolls his eyes in exasperation. The gruesome masked human hides again. Jegga says in Common: those four fights should have been you versus a tanielite Jegga says in Common: cemoch versus seneca Lostwind says in Common: I don't know anything about the situation with the newbie Satho. I didn't think we did loot, and I would hope we haven't Shinji reads a note titled 'Rumormongers'. Lostwind says in Common: err, would hope we wouldn't in the future, I mean Jegga says in Common: and probably me versus every other crusader > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: ey ey, don't blame me. I just can't stay calmed when I see looting Drakkarr says in Common: i don't think we looted eeither Jegga says in Common: except for those three (drakkarr is big) Jegga says in Common: and im small Lostwind says in Common: Or do you mean Jegga? You concentrate on your platinum ring... <Merchants> You: hope everything is fine apart from that? > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I got told of the truth The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: it wasn't real loot Shinji reads a note titled 'Vitality and PVP'. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: nor a real will to kill the newbie satho Shinji goes ack! The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: in both cases it was a problem with mud Drakkarr says in Common: i haven't been big since the Legiio got the dragonlance..ever since..i've been shivering Drakkarr winks. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but it was finally translated to icly as that Jegga says in Common: my stuff was returned... some hours later Jegga says in Common: only after crusaders realized cemoch WOULDNT fight a team of 6 alone The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I was told _today_ of that truth Lostwind is confused. The gruesome masked human smiles at Jegga. Lostwind tells Jegga in Common: Yes, I disagreed with that action as well. Jegga nods solemnly. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: you know, when you have an artefact, get looted from it, and lose it for more than a year... you're a little sensitive with the matter Jegga says in Common: then we either stop that shit Lostwind says in Common: But Jezz, you're speaking of another situation, right? Jegga says in Common: or assume the consequences The gruesome masked human nods to Lostwind. Shinji grins. Shinji murmurs in Common: jezz wants his big spear from taniels... Shinji nods. You grin amusedly. > The gruesome masked human shrugs. Lostwind says in Common: And Jezz, you killed us instead of stunning because there was a mud glitch? The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I don't know even if they have them The gruesome masked human shakes his head in disagreement. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: let me explain Lostwind nods. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: Jezz went to temple, and read that Hubris was killed and looted The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: Hubris told him, he was killed by seneca, trithea and kors The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: Jezz went ack Jegga says in Common: three newbies Jegga grins. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: four and drak :D You chuckle. > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: i mean, 3 and drak Drakkarr asks in Common: Me? The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: you're no newbie :P The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and today The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: with jegga present Drakkarr says in Common: i wasn't there when hubris got killed The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I was told of the truth in that incident The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: they killed hubris by mistake The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and the weapons of him were lost , after they actually looted, by mistake too The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but it was translated as that... killing and looting a satho slave Jegga says in Common: i think hubris is the only real newbie here, gameplay wise Rand walks in. Jegga says in Common: there are a lot of small chars tho The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I may confess that remembering how I was looted of my Spear long ago made me kill two newbies more ^^ Rand yells in Common: PARTTY!!!! Rand yells in Common: ehre are the beers!!! Jegga pats Rand on the head. The gruesome masked human grins at Rand. Jegga says in Common: behave Shinji peers intently at Rand. The gruesome masked human stands up. Shinji pokes Rand in the ribs. Lostwind says in Common: Hey, I haven't played in so many years, I can't find my way out of a sack Lostwind twinkles her eyes. Rand yells in Common: hell The gruesome masked human chuckles. Shinji looks at Lostwind. Jegga smiles at Lostwind. Omen hugs Rand. Shinji asks Lostwind in Common: who the hell are you, anyways? Shinji laughs. The gruesome masked human tells Rand in Common: Serious matter, so no beers. Rand yells in Common: all sathos uncherging their frustarations on me!! stop poking The gruesome masked human tells Rand in Common: Bring vodka directly! :D. Omen nods seriously. Jegga says in Common: im no satho! Jegga says in Common: only an ordered warrior Drakkarr says in Common: how about this The gruesome masked human listens to Drakkarr Jegga listens. Tarlon looks at the bulletin board. Tarlon reads a note titled 'Rumormongers'. Rand looks at the bulletin board. The gruesome masked human admits that he even thought about looting the four crusaders and exchanging all that for his Spear ^^. Drakkarr says in Common: wlighten up the death penalty for new chars...until they reach like 'veteran' or something.. Rand reads a note titled 'Rumormongers'. Omen goes hmmmm. Shinji goes hmmmm. Shinji shakes his head in disagreement. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: we still have the problem of the big chars not fighting Jegga says in Common: the problem is not the penalty for young chars, but the penalty for _big chars_ Shinji murmurs in Common: no, i would really just prefer a harsh, short duration thing Lostwind says in Common: My understanding is it is already quite light for newbies Tarlon reads a note titled 'Vitality and PVP'. Lostwind says in Common: At least it seems that from the admin note I read The gruesome masked human nods to Shinji. Jegga nods to Lostwind. Rand yells in Common: big chars not fighting? Jegga nods to Rand. The gruesome masked human tells Rand in Common: Not pvping. Jegga says in Common: not fighting each other You ask Shinji in Common: a harsh thing... like you cannot move further than 3 rooms for 4 hours? :) >Shinji stares confused at the board. Korsario storms in. The gruesome masked human said it shorter. Jegga says in Common: small gys get caught in between and pay the consequences Shinji grins at you. The gruesome masked human greets Korsario Drakkarr says in Common: man..i don't want to hear any complaints about penalty for big chars...i've had to deal with them...after all the deaths Drak had...tjust deal with it The gruesome masked human looks at Korsario Omen smiles at Korsario Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: yo Shinji looks at the bulletin board. Korsario grins. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I deal with them too, Drakkarr The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: we all did Shinji nods. Korsario winks at Rand Drakkarr says in Common: i know..i'm speaking for those who complain Jegga says in Common: we all dealt with penaltis, and im not even a midget yet Shinji murmurs in Common: i still do...leather armours dont block much ;) The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but, question is: with the new situation... will it be acceptable any longer? Drakkarr says in Common: err..about You smirk. > Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: whatzss se matter? Rand is lost in the conversation. Jegga looks at Korsario Lostwind says in Common: When it comes to smal chars fighting, I think it's just a question of fair play. Death is not the scariest thing. Be really creepy and scary and it will be fun for all Rand looks at the bulletin board. Drakkarr tells Korsario in Common: You're the matter. Omen agrees completely with Rand Drakkarr smiles. The gruesome masked human tells Korsario in Common: Crusaders wet their pants and humidity makes me feel sick :D. Korsario points at himself. <OOC>: Korsario: me? :) The gruesome masked human coughs. You say in Common: hehe > <OOC>: Korsario: cheer :) Shinji murmurs in Common: kors as crusader built to destroy me = scary :( The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: we were talking about reducing the death penalty The gruesome masked human tells Shinji in Common: Talk in plural. Jegga says in Common: the matter is trying to find a way to make everyone fight each other in this war and everyone have fun You chuckle. > Shinji murmurs in Common: destroy us Rand yells in Common: NO!!! Shinji nods. Rand grins. The gruesome masked human nods. Jegga says in Common: and still remain competitive so they have fun for a long time Shinji nods to Jegga. Shinji murmurs in Common: yes You say in Common: well.. reduce it.. and let the crusaders and templars pay for the guilds that they got for no gold... > Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: deas penalty izss pretty tough now yep. Drakkarr says in Common: do away with the death penalty! Shinji nods to Drakkarr. Shinji grins. Lostwind says in Common: OK, hang on Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: but a weak deas penalty alzsso zssuckzss. Lostwind says in Common: Lets make a show of hands. Shinji tells Korsario in Common: We think a short but harsh penalty is best. The gruesome masked human tells Korsario in Common: We were talking about a harsh penalty bu for shorter time. Rand yells in Common: well there still that idea of some kind of rewards for a guild if he is winnign a war or something... Korsario goes hmmmm. Shinji murmurs in Common: well, i do anyways Lostwind grins at Jegga. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human walks in. The gruesome masked human tells Rand in Common: Never heard about that. Jegga says in Common: yay! Shinji looks at the gloomy fair-complexioned male human. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: Hey all The gruesome masked human greets the gloomy fair-complexioned male human. Shinji peers intently at the gloomy fair-complexioned male human. Jegga says in Common: red screen! The gloomy fair-complexioned male human smiles. Shinji grins. Lostwind says in Common: Everyone for a change in the death penalty, say AYE. Everyone against, say NAY Jegga smiles. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: yeah, my who list is scary Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: would be cool to have quezsstzss, tazsskzss, ritualzss, or wayzss of recover vitality quicker. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human smiles friendly. Jegga says in Common: AYE Shinji murmurs in Common: aye The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: AYE ^_^ The gloomy fair-complexioned male human goes hmmmm. Omen nods happily to Korsario Korsario grins. Lostwind says in Common: NAY Rand goes hmmmm. The gruesome masked human pats Lostwind on the head. Omen mentions in Common: NAY Omen chuckles. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: Someone fill me in? The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: ladies' vote doesn't count :D Omen peers intently. Shinji pokes Omen in the ribs. Korsario licks Lostwind Lostwind grins. Omen mentions in Common: Oi! The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: darkelves called Oran neither Rand yells in Common: I don't know... you can bribe me Korsario grins amusedly at Lostwind Shinji tells Omen in Common: You dont fight in wars! :P. Omen bops Shinji on his head. Drakkarr hides Jezz. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: wazss juzsst an idea. Korsario is suddenly surrounded with an aura of pure life force. He looks stronger and healthier now. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: Fine. No one fill me in! The gloomy fair-complexioned male human sniffs. The gruesome masked human grins at the gloomy fair-complexioned male human. Omen tells Shinji in Common: No... but I assassinate as frequently as I feel like it. The gruesome masked human tells the gloomy fair-complexioned male human in Common: Talking about death penalty. Lostwind says in Common: It's about the death penalty - you been reading the notes? Shinji tells the gloomy fair-complexioned male human in Common: We think short but harsh death pentalty is good. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human looks at Shinji. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human nods to Lostwind Rand yells in Common: aye!!!!! my Jegga promised me a beer!! The gruesome masked human tells the gloomy fair-complexioned male human in Common: We throwed the idea of a shorter but harsher death penalty. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human goes hmmmm. Omen looks at Rand. Lostwind says in Common: I'll count Rand as a Nay then ;) Omen ponders the situation. Omen giggles. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human asks in Common: ..Why? Omen nods seriously. Korsario sits down to rest a while. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human sits down to rest a while. You say in Common: i'm against a change in the death penalty > The gruesome masked human tells the gloomy fair-complexioned male human in Common: So dying would disable -more or less- you for that day, but not for a week. Rand yells in Common: AYE Jegga says in Common: because newbies die because biggies dont fight each other Rand yells in Common: vote aye The gruesome masked human sits down to rest a while. Rand goes ack! Lostwind says in Common: They believe with more PVP guilds, no one will be able to fight cause they're all recovering <OOC>: Korsario: you guys are not fair ... I got time for some hunting and you get into an ooc talk hehe :) Shinji nods. <OOC>: Korsario: :P <OOC>: Shinji: ;) The gloomy fair-complexioned male human grins at Korsario <OOC>: Jegga: im gone for an hour already *^sigh* Lostwind says in Common: Newbies die cause they madly attack the biggies Omen grins at Korsario <OOC>: The gruesome masked human: *Jezz* hahahahaha obsessed powergamer! you can't get more stronger! Omen agrees with Lostwind Lostwind says in Common: Or maybe that's just my experience... Lostwind twinkles her eyes. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: The only reason that newbies die is because they don't take the hits as well. The gruesome masked human coughs. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: If they team with the other person. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: And try to kill.. Shinji tells the gloomy fair-complexioned male human in Common: Me either... The gruesome masked human remembers two newbies trying to block his exit. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: They might very well get killed in the process. <OOC>: Korsario: oh, was a satho head hunting *g* :) Jegga nods to the gloomy fair-complexioned male human. Jegga says in Common: but you cant alienate them from fights Rand yells in Common: is this some kinf of official votation? The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: How many times has Cemoch/Jezz/Seneca fought? Korsario chuckles. Lostwind says in Common: Yes, that's the mad part, you see ;) Jegga says in Common: they want to take part, you know Lostwind tells Rand in Common: No. <OOC>: The gruesome masked human: *Jezz* hehehehe doesn't surprise me The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: Trust me. Lostwind tells Rand in Common: Just a discussion. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: I'm trying to kill Cemoch and Jezz. I promise. Tarlon grumbles in Common: you invited all players already? The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: They're hard to kill, dammit. Korsario ponders the situation. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: It's not as easy, of course. Jegga says in Common: people dont stay and fight The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I can promise you too he's trying The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: But tactics are involved. Jegga says in Common: its too expensive Shinji murmurs in Common: i vote that there should be more order warriors active! Shinji nods. The gruesome masked human chuckles. Lostwind says in Common: I'll second that The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: Sure. Shinji murmurs in Common: sathos cant tank for shit The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: jezz is not hard to kill Jegga says in Common: our guild soesnt shine Lostwind says in Common: More Order players = more people to madly attack Nayn graciously enters. Lostwind twinkles her eyes. You tell Lostwind in Common: And well.. if there's going to be a voting about it.. a box should be set up.. and a newsitem written so all players can cast their votes. >Jegga sighs. Jegga grins. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: Jezz, remove your mask please. <OOC>: Korsario: btw jezz, I returned the weapons to hubris, or tried to, but he logged off inmediatelly, so left them at your rock ;) Lostwind says in Common: This is not a voting - I was curious who was for and against Jegga says in Common: you CANT compare sathos with crusaders Nayn raises his hand and greets you! Jegga says in Common: compare thjem with TANIELS The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: If I have to type 'gruesome masked human' I'm going to be pissed. Shinji nods to Jegga. Korsario goes hmmmm. <OOC>: The gruesome masked human: *Jezz* they were gone by mud sweep kors ;) The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: Exactly, jegga. Exactly Omen smiles at Nayn. Jegga says in Common: satho != warrior The gloomy fair-complexioned male human throws his head back and cackles with glee! Jegga says in Common: they cant tank at all Shinji tells Jegga in Common: But then again, taniels have much better armours than us too. Shinji grins. Nayn looks at the bulletin board. Lostwind introduces herself as: Squire Lostwind - Crusader and Former Legionnaire. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I like my armour Jegga says in Common: not into balance, PLS The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: Are we talking about clerics or warriors? Or death penalty? The gruesome masked human tells the gloomy fair-complexioned male human in Common: Can't remove mask here. Jegga says in Common: lets avoid that for today, ok? Shinji murmurs in Common: they all mix Lostwind says in Common: Can you darkelves introduce, too? I don't seem to know you The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: Ahh The gloomy fair-complexioned male human nods understandingly to Rand. Nayn reads a note titled 'Rumormongers'. Jegga says in Common: we talk about war Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: but well your armourzss are light The gloomy fair-complexioned male human goes hmmmm. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: Jezz. Go west and come back The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: sure Rand introduces himself as: Ranger Rand, Packmaster of the Children of the Wild. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: So I can type 'human' You ask Lostwind in Common: you don'T know me? > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: why does a cleric need light armours? :P You smirk. >Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: and you can even make shao zsspecialzss wis sem, zsso no complain. The gruesome masked human stands up. The gruesome masked human walks out west. The gruesome masked human walks in from west. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: but The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I don't need Light armours The gloomy fair-complexioned male human walks out west. Drakkarr graciously leaves west. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: we are not here to compare guildzss Rand looks at the gruesome masked human. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: or? The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I need a bunker Lostwind thanks you. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: to hide there Drakkarr graciously enters from west. Jegga says in Common: DONT COMPARE pls Rand looks at Omen. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and throw my miracles Jegga says in Common: lets focus The gruesome masked human sits down to rest a while. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: deas penalty wazss se matter? Jegga nods. The gruesome masked human nods. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: more or less The gloomy fair-complexioned male human walks in from west. Nayn looks at Korsario Rand yells in Common: so you all want stronger penalty but shorter? The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: Go west all? The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: Or stay here? Shinji graciously leaves west. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but Seneca came and it was all messed :P Rand walks out west. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human walks out west. Drakkarr graciously leaves west. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human walks in from west. Drakkarr graciously enters from west. The gruesome masked human dances. Nayn graciously leaves west. The gruesome masked human walks out west. The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: Blame me west, Jezz ;) The gloomy fair-complexioned male human walks out west. Drakkarr graciously leaves west. Korsario stands up. Korsario storms out west. Lostwind graciously leaves west. Jegga graciously leaves west. Omen scratches her head. Omen tries to look west. Omen walks out west. w The discussion room. Here you are able to talk with other players or wizards about topics which don't belong into the world of GEAS. To make sure that noone disturbs your privacy you can 'list' all livings in this room - even invisible ones. There are two obvious exits: game, east. Drakkarr, Jegga, Korsario, Lostwind is resting here, Nayn, Omen is resting here, Rand, Shinji, a gloomy fair-complexioned male human and a gruesome masked human. > rest The gloomy fair-complexioned male human says in Common: Those I haven't met, I don't want to know in game. You sit down to rest a while. > <OOC>: Korsario: not fair to remember here or? The gloomy fair-complexioned male human introduces himself as: Lord Marshall Seneca of the Crusaders of Lord Taniel and Lady Evren. Seneca says in Common: I don't Kors <OOC>: The gruesome masked human: *Jezz* i know you all :D <OOC>: Shinji: lol @ omen's real name Jegga graciously leaves east. <OOC>: Shinji: ;) > l The discussion room. Here you are able to talk with other players or wizards about topics which don't belong into the world of GEAS. To make sure that noone disturbs your privacy you can 'list' all livings in this room - even invisible ones. There are two obvious exits: game, east. Drakkarr, Korsario, Lostwind is resting here, Nayn, Omen is resting here, Rand, Seneca, Shinji and a gruesome masked human. > <OOC>: Omen: bugger off <OOC>: Korsario: hehe Omen introduces herself as: Omen. >Rand yells in Common: ah then I did know you but Rand forgot :D <OOC>: The gruesome masked human: *Jezz* toggle "list off" You say in Common: hehe > Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: I dont know zssome Korsario grins. Jegga graciously enters from east. Korsario looks at Nayn. Rand sits down to rest a while. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: ok, let's continue? Seneca says in Common: okay... Jegga says in Common: ok, i gotta go Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: dont know mozsst of se elvezss Omen peers intently at Shinji Lostwind nods. Seneca says in Common: First order.. Death penalty. Shinji grins at Omen. The gruesome masked human nods to Jegga. Jegga says in Common: why dont you take the time to write an answer? Shinji remembers omen as devilchild. Jegga says in Common: so we take into account non present people too? Omen tells Shinji in Common: No messing or I keep licking you. The gruesome masked human asks Jegga in Common: as long as yours? <OOC>: Korsario: hah Omen gives Shinji a deep and passionate kiss. It seems to take forever...Sexy, eh? You chuckle. >Shinji slaps Omen. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: ey, no sex here Seneca says in Common: You want a shorter, harsher death penalty.. so people don't take the time to fear death? Don't you think people should _care_ if they die? The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I'm in abstinence Drakkarr chuckles. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: well Seneca says in Common: Sure, it would be great to run around blindly in mass mobs Shinji tells Seneca in Common: Its not that. Seneca says in Common: And kill everyone. The gruesome masked human sits down to rest a while. You tell Seneca in Common: People should care about death. >Jegga says in Common: so people arent completely disable for the future Seneca says in Common: But what would that do? Seneca says in Common: Nothing. <OOC>: Korsario: IMO, ask wiz a harder, but shorter death penalty is not wise. Seneca says in Common: Where's the tactics in that? <OOC>: Korsario: :) You nod to Korsario > Jegga says in Common: and they actually take the risk to fight _for_ their youngsters _with_ their youngsters Rand yells in Common: I think it is ok now, though maybe subsequent deaths could have less penalty Seneca says in Common: People should fear death because it sucks. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I'm also 100% with rand Drakkarr says in Common: hey..i like that one rand The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: the second death should be less harsh Korsario tells Rand in Common: I agree. Omen nods thoughtfully to Rand Lostwind says in Common: I think it's ok, too You say in Common: if you reduce it and make it harder.. people would just sit it out somewhere safe.. maybe even being idle.. and lose nothing... just some online time > Jegga says in Common: sounds good Shinji murmurs in Common: but it's so easy to die in times of war, it just makes it lame to play when you know your char will get gimped Vadral storms in from east. Vadral storms out east. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: because if not, as things are right now, and as we said. WE ALL WILL NEVER KNOW WHICH ARE OUR STATS :P Jegga nods to Shinji. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: four deas right now could take you 2 monszss for recover or zsso, wis luck and playing continuouzss... Jegga says in Common: ok, heres another Jegga says in Common: listen Seneca says in Common: I can say that.. maybe there should be a slight .. _very very_ slight gain during off game time The gruesome masked human nods knowingly to Korsario. Drakkarr laughs. Rand yells in Common: 2 months?! oh my... I have 5 :D The gruesome masked human studies Seneca carefully. Seneca says in Common: Don't study me. The gruesome masked human .oO(weakling). Seneca peers intently. You tell Rand in Common: My average recovery time for a single death was 4 days. >Jegga says in Common: Guilds can 'declare war' on other guilds, and their deaths arent as harsh as normal then. The gruesome masked human tells Seneca in Common: You can study me if you wish, honey :D. Korsario chuckles. Shinji goes hmmmm. The gruesome masked human winks sexily at Seneca. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: sen people would not fear to die in a war... Seneca tells the gruesome masked human in Common: I don't swing that way, dreadbitch ;). Rand goes hmmmm. The gruesome masked human smiles. The gruesome masked human ponders the situation. Drakkarr chuckles. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: yeah, it's the same situation Lostwind says in Common: Can we keep the offtopic stuff to a minimum? It's getting impossible to discuss The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: people would go frenzy in a war Jegga says in Common: wars are all about fun killing each other, isnt it? Jegga says in Common: is it or not? Shinji murmurs in Common: thats what i think Shinji agrees with Jegga. Drakkarr says in Common: i really like Rand's idea The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but not massively killing Korsario nods to Drakkarr The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I think a war it's more a brain-fight than muscle one Shinji murmurs in Common: why not? its boring to go around killing ogres all the damn time The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: except if Korsario is online, Seneca says in Common: I could go for a harsh death, and weaker on the third and so forth. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: then it's pure muscle, and your legs running Korsario chuckles. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: or cemoch? Seneca says in Common: But the first and second, no. Korsario grins. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: Cemoch is a wimp :D Korsario laughs. The gruesome masked human hides. Seneca asks in Common: And Seneca, Venim and Jolas fighting Jezz and Cemoch? :P? Seneca says in Common: Was a great fight though The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I LOVED it You tell Seneca in Common: I would rather go for a relatively fast recovery for the first death.. and increasing penalties for each consecutive death. > Seneca nods seriously. Seneca goes hmmmm. The gruesome masked human tells Seneca in Common: You were close ;). Korsario shakes his head in disagreement to you. You say in Common: if you didn't fully recover... > Seneca shakes his head in disagreement to you. Rand goes hmmmm. Seneca says in Common: I don't agree with that. Jegga says in Common: then as soon as one side manage to kill one of the single given big characters (say cemoch, korsario, seneca, trithea) a pair of times (and it will happen, naturally) the losing side is completely fucked up Seneca says in Common: First two deaths should be hard as hell. Lostwind says in Common: I'm for Rand's idea, too Rand yells in Common: I disagree with Omen Lostwind says in Common: The cool thing is - it's already in place Rand yells in Common: better to fear the first death Lostwind grins ironically. Jegga says in Common: i really gotta go The gruesome masked human nods understandingly to Jegga. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: well, we have zssomesing very good here, we do not have kssp lozsse. Seneca nods to Jegga. Rand yells in Common: then the others are weaker but you are still recovering Seneca waves in Jegga's direction. Seneca tells Jegga in Common: Have fun. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: ever muzsst be a dizssadvantage. The gruesome masked human tells Jegga in Common: Someone could log all this for ya :D. Rand yells in Common: so you 'll be pissed if you die first You say in Common: i'm logging all anyway > Omen asks in Common: Disagree with me? What did I say? Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: but I agree sat deas penalty izss bit hard right now when zsseveral deaszss. Rand yells in Common: and still be pissed if you die again but a bit less The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I'm on with the idea of first death harsh, and the others less damaging Lostwind says in Common: Did you hear me? The gruesome masked human shakes his head in disagreement to Lostwind. > Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: in place? Seneca says in Common: I want at least the first two to stay the same, or at least close to. Jegga says in Common: pls, someone make a log Lostwind says in Common: I'm for Rand's idea, too Seneca says in Common: Seems we all agree on something. Lostwind says in Common: The cool thing is - it's already in place Korsario asks Lostwind in Common: it workzss sat way, you mean? The gruesome masked human tells Jegga in Common: Oran is doing. Lostwind nods seriously. Seneca nods to Lostwind. Rand yells in Common: i can save the last 1000 lines You say in Common: I AM LOGGING ALL ANYWAY > Jegga says in Common: lostwind it takes ages for chatrs like korsario Lostwind says in Common: Vitality is a skill Rand yells in Common: I'll be checking Drakkarr says in Common: hurray Rand!! Nayn says in Common: Well, I don't know, but as a newbie, it is kind of disconcerting to die 5-6 times when your just trying to learn the game. Jegga waves. Rand yells in Common: ah ok Oran loggin Jegga says in Common: BYE! Korsario nods slowly. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: or jezz don't forget jezz, he's also big Lostwind says in Common: If you die twice your skill is lower - and you improve faster Suddenly Jegga turns to stone. Korsario nods to Omen The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but as Abh said Shinji graciously leaves game. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: newbies don't lose so much when they die Seneca tells Nayn in Common: And that's not something that we want. We don't want to not include them in the roleplay either. Lostwind says in Common: The more you die, the faster vitality improves Rand nods to Lostwind. Omen ponders the situation. Omen nods to Lostwind. Korsario nods to Lostwind Nayn goes hmmmm. Lostwind says in Common: So your second death does take less than your first, and your third less than that Seneca tells Nayn in Common: But there are other parts. Most people involved in a war want to follow fair play. That's why we can all sit around and laugh about things like this. Seneca nods to Lostwind. Omen mentions in Common: Females have all the good ideas. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: if kors dies, he has a much harder time recovering stats than a first day playing halfer Rand yells in Common: but keeping in mind that the more you die the more vitality you have to recover Lostwind grins at Omen. The statue of Jegga crumbles to dust. Omen smiles innocently. The gruesome masked human ponders the situation. Lostwind says in Common: But you don't have twice the trouble as if you died only once The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: not to forget, dying while you're total newbie is the EASIEST thing that can happen to you Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: anyway, in a war you should not die more san once... if you are not too zsstupid. Lostwind says in Common: Of course it's harder than dying only once - otherwise, you wuoldn't care about dying again Omen nods seriously to Lostwind Drakkarr says in Common: ahem Drakkarr peers intently at Korsario Omen mentions in Common: Everyone listen up now!! Omen points at Lostwind Seneca grins at Drakkarr. The gruesome masked human looks at Lostwind. Korsario tells Drakkarr in Common: If se enemy play fair. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: striptease! finally! The gruesome masked human starts drooling. You chuckle. > Omen asks in Common: Wha?? Seneca peers intently. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: didn't you say to watch now? Drakkarr says in Common: are weback in the Eal-Deliah Tower? Seneca begins to guard Lostwind. Drakkarr looks at Omen. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: my abstinence is affecting me Omen hides behind you. Lostwind says in Common: So I declare Rand's idea adopted and retroactively implemented ;) Seneca grins amusedly at Lostwind Korsario laughs. Omen asks in Common: What idea was that? The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: Eal-Deliah tower? Omen scratches her head. The gruesome masked human listens to Drakkarr Omen mentions in Common: I got confused. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: like Dinio ^^ Nayn waves. Seneca waves in Nayn's direction. Nayn graciously leaves east. The gruesome masked human waves in Lostwind's direction. Korsario smirks. Oops the gruesome masked human seems to have made a mistake. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: hehe Seneca says in Common: Alright. What else? Drakkarr says in Common: long story Jezz..involves a naked female human disarming traps Rand yells in Common: first death hard, next ones lower every time, the more you die the faster you recover tough you have more to recover Omen peers intently at Drakkarr The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: Eal-Deliah tower :D The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: ah, yeah Omen mentions in Common: NO MENTION OF THAT!!!! The gruesome masked human tells Drakkarr in Common: Saw the log :) you were close. Rand yells in Common: with a limit of course else you could die 1000000000000 times to recover in a minute :D Korsario tells Rand in Common: Lozsstwind izss zssaying satzss already implemented. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: poor Nabanja :( Seneca tells Rand in Common: What's being said is that's done. Omen giggles. Rand yells in Common: ah great Rand yells in Common: then I like it Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: zsso, may be should be tuned a bit Seneca tells Rand in Common: I mean, that's the way it was. Drakkarr asks in Common: Rand's idea is already implemented? Lostwind grins at Rand. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: a wiz is real-time implementing all what we say? ^^ Seneca grins amusedly at Lostwind Korsario grins. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: amazing Rand yells in Common: though subsequent deaths should be less weakening You say in Common: hehe >Lostwind nods to Drakkarr. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: retroactively Seneca says in Common: No.. that is how the death is currently set up. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: like lozsstwind zssaid Lostwind says in Common: For I guess acouple of years now Korsario chuckles. Lostwind twinkles her eyes. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: uh Seneca says in Common: Your ideas is how it is working. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: then I didn't notice it You grin amusedly. > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: coz I die second time and my stats go as low as the first Lostwind nods to Omen. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: I noticed se lower your vitality izss, se quicker it improvezss Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: but reach a time when it getzss really zsslow Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: lazsst deas izss really hard to recover The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: yeah but even then, you said it kors Rand yells in Common: well maybe the problem is just reducing a bit the vitality lost in subsequent deaths Lostwind says in Common: If you die twice in a row, Jezz - not twice over a long period of time Seneca says in Common: I could be up for a very, very slow gain when offline. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: if you or me dies, it takes a week of continues playing and hunting Drakkarr says in Common: yeah..i don't notice it You say in Common: well.. considering that vitality is like a skill improvement slows down in the end > Korsario is suddenly surrounded with an aura of pure life force. He looks stronger and healthier now. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: ey! Seneca tells Lostwind in Common: That makes more sense then. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: you lamer The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: a crusader shouldn't be able to use Lilith's power You say in Common: skill training in here.. > Seneca asks in Common: Lilith's power? Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: I dont notice se lazsst deas a lot The gruesome masked human points at Korsario Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: what lilis power? You chuckle. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: the orb at Deathvalley Korsario smirks. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: tahtzss not lilis'zss power The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: nah nah The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: it is, go and give the trolls back that power Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: se trollzss guard my power Seneca says in Common: Next order? Omen grins slightly. Seneca says in Common: Of business? The gruesome masked human coughs. You ask in Common: Rumormongers? :)? > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: hehehehe Seneca says in Common: I'm sure the note was read. The gruesome masked human nods. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: the topic why we came here was death penalty Rand goes hmmmm. You say in Common: prolly :) > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and newbie killin Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: hubrizss'zss deas wazss an accident The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I already explained Lostwind why I killed four crussies Rand yells in Common: I agree with bewbie killing!!!! :D The gruesome masked human tells Korsario in Common: I was told today of the story. Lostwind pokes Rand in the ribs. Korsario nods. Rand peers intently at Lostwind. Seneca says in Common: So it gets complicated. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: I felt very zssorry for it Seneca says in Common: Because when I hunted Jezz today.. which was fun.. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I don't :D Rand yells in Common: well as I usually say if the newbie touches my eggs... The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: icly, i mean :( Seneca says in Common: I also let Jegga go. The gruesome masked human tells Seneca in Common: Hunting jezz is not fun. Seneca says in Common: And then following that were two more young deaths. Drakkarr says in Common: oh yes it is The gruesome masked human tells Seneca in Common: It's boring, remember that. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: well newbiezss should not be killed Lostwind says in Common: I think specific topics should be kept IC The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: well, I told Lostwind Korsario nods to Lostwind The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: the reason I killed four crussies was that jezz didn't know anything oocly Rand yells in Common: but youngsters should be able to fight wars and die in them thats the way to trap them into the vice of geas Rand yells in Common: maybe just lowing their penalties.... Seneca says in Common: But.. I think everyone participating in the war.. agrees with fair play. And practicies it. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: both ic and oocly, I just knew hubris was killed by seneca, kors and trithea, and looted Lostwind says in Common: What happened between Jezz/Lostwind/Exodus, etc. is not the issue - generalizations about newbies should be it Seneca says in Common: I use 'war' loosely. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: well of se deaszss I juzsst mind Jolazss'zss Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: se oserzss were not newbiezss, true? The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: specially the looting, got my nerves The gruesome masked human shrug at Korsario Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: I hate alzsso looting. Seneca tells Korsario in Common: Well, he did participate. Omen mentions in Common: Uh... gotta go help a semi-newbie... keep me posted on things. You say in Common: will do >Lostwind waves in Omen's direction. The gruesome masked human nods friendly to Omen > Omen waves in your direction. You wave. > Omen stands up. Seneca waves in Omen's direction. Drakkarr waves in Omen's direction. Omen walks out game. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: about hubrizss'zss weaponzss wazss -> headbutt -> knocked -> get weaponzss from uncon -> forget to return sem :) The gruesome masked human nods understandingly. You say in Common: hehe > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I understand you, kors Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: realizzsed, but he wazss gone The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and now that I know the real story ... i feel bad You say in Common: well. such things happen > Korsario smirks. Seneca says in Common: So the point is: we all agree in fair play. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but didn't know until I killed the four You nod to Seneca. >The gruesome masked human nods. Lostwind nods to Seneca. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: totally Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: well, happenzss. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I already stunned Exodus in the past Seneca says in Common: Stuff happens. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and didn't kill him Rand yells in Common: what does really means? Lostwind says in Common: I say we agree to forego looting and concentrate on fairplay, especially when it comes to newbies The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: so well :D after two years ou can return my Spear and we all will be friends :D Seneca says in Common: But that's something that we don't want to get out of hand. And I think that the fact that as _players_ we recognize that. Lostwind says in Common: We agree on that? The gruesome masked human starts shaking hands. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: newbiezss wont be killed, well accidentzss happenzss, and if sey team in large teamzss... zssometimezss itzss hard to keep sem alive... Rand nods. Rand yells in Common: but still You smirk. > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: that's totally fair Lostwind nods. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: a newbie killed ina team fight is common Seneca says in Common: Accidents happen. Some newbies will die. But if it can be helped, they won't be. Rand yells in Common: I think is frustrating even if you are a newbie to be set apart of things... Korsario nods. You tell the gruesome masked human in Common: I know who got the spear in the first place.. and who got it afterwards.. oocly :). > Lostwind nods to Rand. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but I could have easily stunned both exodus an dlostwind today The gruesome masked human tells you in Common: Oocly so do I :D. Seneca says in Common: If you run across a newbie alone and you have to kill him. Stun him. Wait until he gains consciousness so some other kid doesn't steal his stuff. And tell him to run. ETc. Lostwind says in Common: It's ok - it's over now. Seneca says in Common: Something along those lines. Seneca says in Common: It works. Lostwind says in Common: And I'll just kill you to get my revenge at my leisure ;) Seneca says in Common: And they do tend to run. Lostwind looks at Seneca. Lostwind looks at the gruesome masked human. Seneca says in Common: Looting was next? The gruesome masked human smiles at Lostwind. Rand yells in Common: but then you are embarrasing the newbie Korsario rubs his hands. Rand yells in Common: I don't know The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: if the newbie is a real mudder You tell Seneca in Common: Well.. there should always be the option for the kind of stupid heroic newbie :) who wants to die.. to kill that newbie :). > Lostwind nods to you. Rand yells in Common: is like making him have clear he is a piece of shit :D The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: to see himself/herself beaten up, will make him train harder Seneca tells you in Common: Yes. And that is in fair play, as well. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: at least it happened to me and more players I know You nod to Seneca. > Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: yezss, if se newbie izss zsso zsstupid sat letzss zssay sizss way: human zssasonyzss, wear mazssk, enter cruzssader canyon :) The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: you geat beaten, get angry, and try your best to get revenge... it's good to increase the fun playing of some chars Rand yells in Common: yes Lostwind says in Common: Or say, two newbies going into an indoor room with one exit to attack a big guy... Lostwind rolls her eyes in exasperation. Korsario grins. The gruesome masked human smiles at Lostwind. The gruesome masked human tells Lostwind in Common: Ambushing perfect tactic! You say in Common: hehe > Korsario smirks. Lostwind says in Common: yeah! It's the anti-ambush! You say in Common: there's still room for improvement > The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: well, move to "loot topic" The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but I still think it's more or less the same as killing newbies The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: it's a matter of ... "education" Lostwind says in Common: From my perspective, Crusaders don't loot. It's a matter of honor Seneca nods to Lostwind. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: overally, noone should loot You say in Common: well.. generally thieves might loot :) > Drakkarr says in Common: except thieves You say in Common: but we normally return such things anyway > Rand yells in Common: well, usually there has been an agreement to just loot things like money an really important or interesting items, but not all... The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: if not for especific reasons, like exchanging the stuff for something/someone Seneca says in Common: Except thieves. Drakkarr laughs at you. Lostwind says in Common: Well, it's not exactly a mud rule or anything The gruesome masked human shakes his head in disagreement to Rand. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: wrong rand Drakkarr says in Common: more like common sense The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: looting important items is what makes looting SUCK Lostwind says in Common: But it's smart, if you ever want to get your stuff back Rand yells in Common: really? The gruesome masked human nods. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: totally Seneca says in Common: True. There are no rules about looting. But if you start a looting war.. chances are it's going to escalate. Lostwind nods seriously to Seneca. The gruesome masked human nods. Korsario is suddenly surrounded with an aura of pure life force. He looks stronger and healthier now. say definately it's going to escalate Drakkarr says in Common: or even 'superscalate' You say in Common: definately it's going to escalate > Korsario hisses hungrily in Common:already ekssperienced sat. Seneca says in Common: From a Crusader standpoint, we don't want to touch your filthy items anyways. ;) Lostwind says in Common: And from a roleplay perspective, it's distasteful to me. Myself and my guild are not graverobbers You say in Common: hehe >The gruesome masked human grins at Seneca. Rand yells in Common: of course I would get fucking angry if someone loots my bow, but well... can happen Drakkarr agrees with Seneca. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but your bow is a guild item The gruesome masked human looks at Rand. Rand shakes his head in disagreement. The gruesome masked human shuts up. Rand yells in Common: is not a guild item The gruesome masked human pats himself on his head. Rand yells in Common: I can't buy it at shops The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: well then The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I've killed many people Rand yells in Common: was cloned by Tamo only for packmasters The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and never looted anything that looked like an artefact Rand yells in Common: but well The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: for the only reason that it pisses A LOT oocly Lostwind says in Common: OK, so it sounds like we've covered all the topics pretty much Rand yells in Common: if you kill someone specifically to get that artifact Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: ehem Korsario grins. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and I think to have died, and have your enemy laughing at your ghost, is often enough Seneca says in Common: But if you do take a guild item. You can be that people are going to kill you for it to get it back. But people know the consequences when they loot. The thing is that you just stay aware of that. Rand yells in Common: maybe like the boarstatue, it wasn't something that a sathonite would like... The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: or for example The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I'm against looting artefacts The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: if you aren't going to use them say agreed You say in Common: agreed > Rand's body trembles slightly. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: yezss, loot for teazsse, zssuckzss The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and simply put them in your backpack, until Geas' pc decides to stop working ;) Rand yells in Common: well I agree in that The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: that sucks Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: wonder why The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and is mainly what makes me go crazy when I think about my spear :P The gruesome masked human stands up. The gruesome masked human goes crazy :D. Rand yells in Common: also sucks to loot custom items :D Rand yells in Common: very costly The gruesome masked human tells Seneca in Common: You have the Spear!! traitor rat!! Lostwind thinks .... goes? Seneca says in Common: What I've seen from this conversation: 1) We're all still players. We're in the right mind. And we can all sit around and laugh about it. That's a _good_ thing. 2) The death penalty is something which will be dealt with. 3) Looting will always have in game consequences. In a war, it's always best to be aware of that, because of the escalation it could have. Rand's body trembles slightly. Seneca says in Common: I think we're done here? The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: more or less Lostwind nods to Seneca. Lostwind says in Common: I agree Rand's body trembles slightly. Korsario nods. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I still wait for the striptease Rand nods. The gruesome masked human taps his foot impatiently. Lostwind says in Common: OK, go ahead Seneca says in Common: Then have fun all Rand yells in Common: and the beers Lostwind sits back and watches. The gruesome masked human looks at Korsario Seneca grins amusedly at Lostwind Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: bah The gruesome masked human winks at Korsario Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: nosing interezssting here. You tell the gruesome masked human in Common: The spear once went through my hands... from shadowca.. to dalamar :). >Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: to zssee The gruesome masked human tells Korsario in Common: C'mon c'mon, don't be shy. Rand yells in Common: where is Jegga? my beer?!!!! damned templars... Korsario grins teasingly. Lostwind wears her flute and plays Jezz some striptease music. Korsario wiggles his tail. Seneca amusedly shakes his head in disagreement. say hehe You say in Common: hehe >The gruesome masked human laughs. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: your wish. Lostwind says in Common: UHOH! Rand yells in Common: I'll sing The gruesome masked human tells you in Common: To Xexo, who doesn't log. Lostwind says in Common: If Korsario is stripping, I'm running for cover! Rand yells in Common: YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR HEAD ON!!!! The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and when he logs, he's behind 292892 mercs, in Elvandar Rand yells in Common: come on Omen Drakkarr says in Common: it's getting hot in her..so take off all your clothes Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: but will dance zsswinging around wis my zssword... Drakkarr dances. Seneca says in Common: One hell of a log, Oran. You tell the gruesome masked human in Common: Well. once dalamar had it it was no longer my problem. >Korsario grins evilly. The gruesome masked human nods. Lostwind covers her head with her hands. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I'm not blaming anyone The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: but... The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I think, if a player has an artefact tell seneca as i said.. i log everything.. every single day i log on You tell Seneca in Common: As i said.. i log everything.. every single day i log on. > Korsario looks at the leather backpack. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and doesn't log for x days The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: the artefact should be returned to game Lostwind says in Common: That happens, too <OOC>: Korsario: ehm, you cant get things from containers here? <OOC>: The gruesome masked human: *Jezz* no ;) <OOC>: Korsario: ah, to avoid cheating? <OOC>: Seneca: nope yep :) say think there was a rule regarding that... You say in Common: think there was a rule regarding that... > Lostwind says in Common: Though it isn't just a couple of days Rand yells in Common: yes there are some I think they are missing like the boarstatue for example The gruesome masked human shrugs. Drakkarr says in Common: speaking of artifacts..does Cemoch still have the Lance? The gruesome masked human shrug at Drakkarr. Seneca says in Common: Ummmmmm. <OOC>: Korsario: cute :) Seneca says in Common: Should this really be spoken about here? :D The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I just know who has the spear The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: and I know he/she hasn't logged for long Lostwind says in Common: No ;) Drakkarr tells Seneca in Common: Okay...i ried... Drakkarr shrugs. Seneca says in Common: If you don't know in game, you don't have to know OOCly either. ;) Drakkarr says in Common: that's my main suspect anyways The gruesome masked human blushes. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: ok, all done Rand looks at Seneca. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: letzss play sen Rand looks at the gruesome masked human. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: yeah, but talking about who owns artefacts and who doesn't is not very plite Lostwind says in Common: It takes a while, but if anyone has an artifact - even his/her own - and doesn't log in for long enough, the artifact is returned to the game Rand yells in Common: I'll find it Jezz ;) The gruesome masked human grins at Rand. The gruesome masked human tells Rand in Common: We have a deal :D. The gruesome masked human dances. Drakkarr asks Lostwind in Common: it is? say hehe You say in Common: hehe > Seneca nods to Lostwind. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: ok guys, I'm starving Lostwind nods to Drakkarr. Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: dont make barterzss here Korsario grins. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: have fun out there :) Rand nods professionally. Lostwind waves. Seneca waves. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: don't kill too many sathos :( Seneca smiles. tell gruesome masked human: if i find the spear.. you'll find it back somehow... Korsario winks. You tell the gruesome masked human in Common: If i find the spear.. you'll find it back somehow... > Rand yells in Common: we HAD a deal ;) Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: que aproveche Korsario grins. Seneca peers intently at Rand. Rand yells in Common: we are not bartering here :D Lostwind says in Common: I'm out of here, too. I thought I'd play for an hour or so, and it's been like 5 or something now ;) tell gruesome masked human: of course.. in exchange for a nice reward :) You tell the gruesome masked human in Common: Of course.. in exchange for a nice reward :). >Seneca grins at Lostwind. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: se dice: "kaprovexe" :D The gruesome masked human grins amusedly at you. Lostwind thinks Addiction. The gruesome masked human whispers coldly in Common: I'm opened for suggestions Korsario hisses hungrily in Common: bon apettit Lostwind says in Common: Bye all The gruesome masked human waves friendly. Lostwind waves. say c ya Korsario waves. You say in Common: c ya >The gruesome masked human walks out game. Drakkarr waves in your direction. Drakkarr graciously leaves game. Korsario storms out game. Lostwind stands up. Rand stands up. Rand yells in Common: no striptease it seems Rand sighs. Rand walks out game. Seneca walks out game. You say in Common: hehe.
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